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what he does not mention is paul ryan made the same projections for his original plan, but needed is right. both of these candidates are not being totally straight with the voters. president obama goes after romney and ryan in the way that the democrats always go after the gop when it comes to entitlements, but as we know, last summer, president obama was having to make changes to medicare in exchange to getting a grand bargain. if he is reelected, he will have to go back to the table, and i'm sure the same question will be on the table again. he says he is open to make some changes. >> let me explain the difference between what obama would do with the $716 billion, and what the romney -- what paul ryan would do. obama takes the money out of medicare and reduces the payments to doctors and hospitals, which obviously reduces services. 16 of all hospitals will have to shut down or refuse the elderly. he takes the money, the seven and 16 he saves, and places it into a new entitlement called obamacare, which will fund the uninsured. a good cause, but it is taking from to a and giving to
what he does not mention is paul ryan made the same projections for his original plan, but needed is right. both of these candidates are not being totally straight with the voters. president obama goes after romney and ryan in the way that the democrats always go after the gop when it comes to entitlements, but as we know, last summer, president obama was having to make changes to medicare in exchange to getting a grand bargain. if he is reelected, he will have to go back to the table, and i'm...
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vice president joe biden and paul ryan will talk about foreign policy and domestic policy. we'll have live coverage and analysis beginning at 8:55 p.m. eastern time. >>> we have a fox news alert for you now on the deadly meningitis outrage. cdc reporting two more deaths bringing the total to 7. there are dozens of confirmed cases in these nine states. look at this map. the rare fungal meningitis is linked to a custom-made steroid that used to treat back pain produced by a specialty pharmacy in massachusetts. in addition to the cases already identified, health officials warns hundreds of other people could be affected. >> gregg: the clock is ticking away for congress to stop the looming budget cuts and that could mean hundreds of billions of dollars in cuts to the military triggering significant defense job losses. now, there is a battle brewing over layoff notices that could go out right before the election. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel. >> the law says mass layoffs are coming, notices should go out 60 days ahead. obama administration that isn't necessary
vice president joe biden and paul ryan will talk about foreign policy and domestic policy. we'll have live coverage and analysis beginning at 8:55 p.m. eastern time. >>> we have a fox news alert for you now on the deadly meningitis outrage. cdc reporting two more deaths bringing the total to 7. there are dozens of confirmed cases in these nine states. look at this map. the rare fungal meningitis is linked to a custom-made steroid that used to treat back pain produced by a specialty...
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vice-president joe biden and paul ryan will meet in kentucky. our live previous starts at 7:00 p.m. eastern. the debate starts live at 9:00 p.m. eastern. followed by your reaction at 10:30. followed the debate on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. >> i do think it is a great look at what is happening in washington. it comes back to you and changes your view. it is different from regular media. it is very objective. it is about what is real and what is going on. when the senate and the house votes on different bills, we've watched in the office and when there are reports on hearings. >>> welcome back to the news at noon. i am adrienne bankert. taking a second look at your top stories. different decisions. >> erin mcclusky watches c-span on direct tv. c-span brought to you by your television provider. >> a discussion now on campaign finance and super pacs in election 2012 with a group of political strategists and campaign consultants. this was toasted by the eagleton institute of politics at rutgers university and is 19 minutes. -- and is 19 minutes. -- and is 90 minutes. here we g
vice-president joe biden and paul ryan will meet in kentucky. our live previous starts at 7:00 p.m. eastern. the debate starts live at 9:00 p.m. eastern. followed by your reaction at 10:30. followed the debate on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. >> i do think it is a great look at what is happening in washington. it comes back to you and changes your view. it is different from regular media. it is very objective. it is about what is real and what is going on. when the senate and the...
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without a doubt, paul ryan is a numbers guy and democrats have not even gotten a budget passed. not to mention the fact that vice-president biden is seen as making gaffe after gaffe when it comes to whether or not the last four years have been crushing for the middle class, he's had to backtrack on a couple of statements, i can't go through them all we don't have time. >> we don't have time right now. >> jamie: but what about that vice-presidential debate and what kind of difference it can make to people's thoughts about their pocket books? >> the real question that the democrats will press and certainly joe biden will press is does paul ryan and his plan for the budget represent the romney plan? we don't know. is it turning medicare into a voucher system? medicaid into a block grant? >> why does it matter, doug, as long as it makes sense? >> i'm sorry? >> why would it matter if it's also governor romney's specific plan and-- >> because that would suggest a radical realtering of our social agenda, jamie, if that happened i think it would present americans with a stark choice, on
without a doubt, paul ryan is a numbers guy and democrats have not even gotten a budget passed. not to mention the fact that vice-president biden is seen as making gaffe after gaffe when it comes to whether or not the last four years have been crushing for the middle class, he's had to backtrack on a couple of statements, i can't go through them all we don't have time. >> we don't have time right now. >> jamie: but what about that vice-presidential debate and what kind of difference...
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. >> congressman paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate. martha margaret. you can watch and engage with our live in debate preview starting seven got p.m. eastern filed by the debate at 9:00. your reaction at and 30 p.m. -- at 10:30 p.m. >> c-span's debate website provides life and on demand coverage of all the presidential and vice- presidential debate. is on a place for you will see live coverage before and after the debate. it has each debate question as a separate. what your critics clips as well and read streaming tweets from political reporters. go to c-span.org/debate. >> the house has done better in making its proceedings more transparent to the public online perce that is according to participants up a foundation event looking at transparency in congress posted this week in washington, d.c.. >> good afternoon. well compared my name is daniel schuman and i'm director of the advisory committee who is hosting this event. this discussion is going to focus on whether congress is serious about transparency. cupe going to explore the progress made and tal
. >> congressman paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate. martha margaret. you can watch and engage with our live in debate preview starting seven got p.m. eastern filed by the debate at 9:00. your reaction at and 30 p.m. -- at 10:30 p.m. >> c-span's debate website provides life and on demand coverage of all the presidential and vice- presidential debate. is on a place for you will see live coverage before and after the debate. it has each debate question as a...
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joe biden versus paul ryan. who do you think is going to do well? >> i love them both. i know them both very well. they're both good blue collar catholics. but it's going to be ryan. no doubt about it. listen, joe biden right now is the republican secret weapon. this past week he talked about the fact that the past four years have been brutal for the middle class, who's been buried under obama leadership. then he promised a trillion-dollar tax increase a couple of days ago. we want more biden as republicans. more biden. >> don't underestimate joe biden and his decades of serving washington and knowing washington. paul ryan, i wish you the best of luck. >> and joe biden is a great man and we wish him well, and we hope he keeps talking a lot. >> that's your "morning joe" political wrap. >> and you can catch joe and mika weekdays at 6:00 a.m. eastern. with more now, here's lester. >>> they mentioned the latest unemployment numbers. is the economy really recovering? we're here with audio look inside the numbers. help me understand this now. the actual number of jobs added i
joe biden versus paul ryan. who do you think is going to do well? >> i love them both. i know them both very well. they're both good blue collar catholics. but it's going to be ryan. no doubt about it. listen, joe biden right now is the republican secret weapon. this past week he talked about the fact that the past four years have been brutal for the middle class, who's been buried under obama leadership. then he promised a trillion-dollar tax increase a couple of days ago. we want more...
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. >> paul ryan gets rit of capital gains in his first budget. >> mitt romney doesn't. his focus is on lowering income tax rates which a lot of small businesses pay and lowering the deductions or limiting the itemized deductions. >> let me grant you the maximal amount of good faith to mitt romney for a second. let me say that he really is committed to revenue neutrality. he is committed to not reducing taxes on the highest income. i don't believe that but let's grant it for the moment. he said this thing at the debate which i thought was right. none of this is passed by the president himself. you have a dialogue with the legislature. you just cannot credibly tell me sitting at this table that a tax bill that comes out of this house republican caucus, they'll let a bill get out of that house without cuts for the top, elimination of the estate tax which is explicitly advocated by the romney campaign, all sorts of other ways in which taxes can be reduced at the top. it's what they're committed to ideologically. it's what their record is doing. i can't see it be the case. >
. >> paul ryan gets rit of capital gains in his first budget. >> mitt romney doesn't. his focus is on lowering income tax rates which a lot of small businesses pay and lowering the deductions or limiting the itemized deductions. >> let me grant you the maximal amount of good faith to mitt romney for a second. let me say that he really is committed to revenue neutrality. he is committed to not reducing taxes on the highest income. i don't believe that but let's grant it for the...
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allows them to move on to thursday's debate between joe biden and paul ryan as well as the remaining two debates between president obama and mitt romney. >> in terms of thursday's debate, did the president's performance at all during that make the vp debate more vitticcal? critical? >> increased pressure on joe biden. for democrats to get in a very good performance and you ent up looking, paul rye sn a very well-spoken person, although this is going to be his first debate on a stage like this. joe biden has done this many times before. he actually might have a little advantage. as we all know sometimes joe biden is saying things that actually draw attention. so i do think that this is going to be a must-see debate for the country, and, of course, the obama campaign is hoping for a little better performance. >> very gracious way to talk about things that the vice president said in the past. mark murray, thank you very much. >> thanks, alex. >>> in this week's office politic, christy todd whitman, first to defeat an uncome bent governor in an election. today new jersey's only female go
allows them to move on to thursday's debate between joe biden and paul ryan as well as the remaining two debates between president obama and mitt romney. >> in terms of thursday's debate, did the president's performance at all during that make the vp debate more vitticcal? critical? >> increased pressure on joe biden. for democrats to get in a very good performance and you ent up looking, paul rye sn a very well-spoken person, although this is going to be his first debate on a stage...
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governor romney chose paul ryan as his running mate on october 11 -- beef -- on august 11. you look at the congressional bellpull in the country, it was pretty much tied. generics were very tight. after august 11, when governor robin decided to double down on republican plan to end medicare and fund tax cuts for millionaire and big oil companies, the generics began to spread. instead of being in a neutral environment, we were up 1, 2, 3, and when todd aiken express those horrific thoughts about legitimacy to forms of rape, the generics widened even more. when the republican or romping in the sea of galilee, the generics spread even more. these people have breweries that would end of medicare to fund -- these people have priorities that would end medicare. in august, the nbc/ "wall street journal"generic said it was up four. there is a direct correlation between generics and our ability to win back the house and right now is going in the right direction. host: you could hear more from that interview tomorrow at 10:00 in the morning on this network. vincent from detroit, mich
governor romney chose paul ryan as his running mate on october 11 -- beef -- on august 11. you look at the congressional bellpull in the country, it was pretty much tied. generics were very tight. after august 11, when governor robin decided to double down on republican plan to end medicare and fund tax cuts for millionaire and big oil companies, the generics began to spread. instead of being in a neutral environment, we were up 1, 2, 3, and when todd aiken express those horrific thoughts about...
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olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because they might come up in the debate, and you talk about those things and i can argue as persuasively as i'm
olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change...
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so if i were advising paul ryan, and i am not, they just haven't asked for it, i would say be careful that you don't come across as somebody who gets down into the weeds about omb numbers and cbo and sequestration. a lot of these things that the average americans are really not familiar with. he wants to be clear. joe is a very -- excuse me, the vice president is a very attractive guy and if i were him, i would be playing on that as well. >> senator, two things, if i may. one is the ongoing situation regarding the death of ambassador christopher stevens in libya. lots of vagueness about what really went on in the days leading up to this and indeed, afterwards. what is your assessment of where we are now? >> well, let me tell you what's not vague, and that is five days after, five days after what was very quickly determined by the intelligence committee as a terrorist attack, they trotted out our ambassador to the u.n. to every major news outlet saying that this was a spontaneous demonstration because of a hateful video. that's probably one of the worst things that i have ever observed
so if i were advising paul ryan, and i am not, they just haven't asked for it, i would say be careful that you don't come across as somebody who gets down into the weeds about omb numbers and cbo and sequestration. a lot of these things that the average americans are really not familiar with. he wants to be clear. joe is a very -- excuse me, the vice president is a very attractive guy and if i were him, i would be playing on that as well. >> senator, two things, if i may. one is the...
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but paul ryan has what mitt romney had, which is the ability to real off number after number. and again i'm struck by the fact that you can get wonky this year. people somehow seem to want that. and ryan certainly has that capacity to just go through here's why our position is right. number abcd. >> and just very quickly, 30 seconds, this notion you said a minute ago that romney has moved to the center, is that something he continues on the campaign trail? >> i bit. >> the obama folks are saying it is a different mitt romney. >> they had a big decision to make 6, 8 months ago which was do we attack him as a right wing idea loll or flip-flopper. they went idealogue now trying to switch to flip-flopper. but i think he'll have to continue that. it's working for him. >> woodruff: well, the two of you are working for us. mark shields, david brooks. and we'll see you next week. and we'll see you -- >> thursday, that's right thursday nice, vice presidential debate. mark and david keep up the talk on the doubleheader on our web site coming up after this program. >> brown: and we turn
but paul ryan has what mitt romney had, which is the ability to real off number after number. and again i'm struck by the fact that you can get wonky this year. people somehow seem to want that. and ryan certainly has that capacity to just go through here's why our position is right. number abcd. >> and just very quickly, 30 seconds, this notion you said a minute ago that romney has moved to the center, is that something he continues on the campaign trail? >> i bit. >> the...
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paul ryan has put forward a budget. another of them have fully explain how that would cut tax rates 20% across the board. what kind of loopholes would they find? that is a tough fight to have in a congress where there is a belief in a fair shot. host: next is a caller from iowa, larry. caller: hi. thank you for taking my call. i watch too often. i have a big problem with republicans. i feel they have not paid a political price for the damage that was done to this country. unemployment went down today. the numbers are good. there expressionism is part of the reason we have not seen growth in our economy and is where it is because the republicans. all they do is blame the president. host: thank you. guest: there is no question -- president obama had a jobs bill last year. the republicans had no use for it. it was put aside because they did not want to have the present have a success. they were not interested in creating jobs. do they have a jobs plan? there is no record that cutting tax creates jobs. i do think the democr
paul ryan has put forward a budget. another of them have fully explain how that would cut tax rates 20% across the board. what kind of loopholes would they find? that is a tough fight to have in a congress where there is a belief in a fair shot. host: next is a caller from iowa, larry. caller: hi. thank you for taking my call. i watch too often. i have a big problem with republicans. i feel they have not paid a political price for the damage that was done to this country. unemployment went down...
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paul ryan deserves the noble pize prase for not beating her up. center of bunt you're smiling because you know about this. >> i do. 62% of the savings in your budget could come from outing can programs for the poor. that gene 8 and 10 million people will be kicking off of food stamp naps you could cut medicare by $200 billion and medicare and other health care programs like $770 billion. where the em pat think. do you acknowledge that poor people will suffer under the budget. no. >> you have shown a lack of em pat em pa think to poor people. >> any one of these champions of journalistic ontivity and intellectual could have won tonight's dambisa you conservative to hell award. and behind them stand another -- thank you. and behind them stand another dozen who could have qualified if our limitations. but the judges had to choose only one and choose they did. the winner of the 2012damn conservatives to hell award goes to a new car. no. goes to -- the woman who believes paul ryan is some kind of underweight loser with better hair out to destroy the wo
paul ryan deserves the noble pize prase for not beating her up. center of bunt you're smiling because you know about this. >> i do. 62% of the savings in your budget could come from outing can programs for the poor. that gene 8 and 10 million people will be kicking off of food stamp naps you could cut medicare by $200 billion and medicare and other health care programs like $770 billion. where the em pat think. do you acknowledge that poor people will suffer under the budget. no. >>...
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. >> yeah, good luck with that one, paul ryan. i sure hope he's going to go in there and think he can do that. i love joe biden and this is the guy to take paul ryan down on a number of levels. he's going to have to defend himself and there's going to be plenty of time if he wants to walk through any kind of numbers. i'm sure we can get out a whiteboard and pen and write it down. i'm sure biden will give him all the time he needs to walk through the numbers. there's still a huge liable for the romney/ryan ticket, and that is this issue of medicare and what they would do in these tax breaks, and i really believe that joe biden is going to be able to hold paul ryan's feet to the fire in a way that we have not yet seen. >> okay, hogan, so karen says that joe biden is going to literally pummel this man and knock him out in about the second round. what's your assessment of the fourthcoming debate, hogan? >> i'm not sure if it will be the second round but joe biden will definitely throw a whole lot more punches than barack obama did. i'
. >> yeah, good luck with that one, paul ryan. i sure hope he's going to go in there and think he can do that. i love joe biden and this is the guy to take paul ryan down on a number of levels. he's going to have to defend himself and there's going to be plenty of time if he wants to walk through any kind of numbers. i'm sure we can get out a whiteboard and pen and write it down. i'm sure biden will give him all the time he needs to walk through the numbers. there's still a huge liable...
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who paul ryan was. now they do. we have done polling and seen is an effective message for democrats against republicans, to talk about the ryan plan. >> let me push back a little here. >> go right ahead. [laughter] >> a day or two before governor romney made his decision about his running mate, i was talking to another pollster. runs the democracy corps. they have been trying to use the ryan plan to beat republican members of congress over the head. like you said, nobody knew who paul ryan was. as we were getting off the phone, i said, i will give you this. i do not think governor romney is going to pick paul ryan. but if he does, we will have another conversation. it strikes me that democrats have not effectively made medicare and the rhine plan -- the ryan plan, i have seen the polling and how it moves people. i have not seen them in flicked -- inflict a lot of bodily damage on republicans on the ryan plan, on medicare, so far. am i missing something? has it had a meaningful effect or not? >> the quic
who paul ryan was. now they do. we have done polling and seen is an effective message for democrats against republicans, to talk about the ryan plan. >> let me push back a little here. >> go right ahead. [laughter] >> a day or two before governor romney made his decision about his running mate, i was talking to another pollster. runs the democracy corps. they have been trying to use the ryan plan to beat republican members of congress over the head. like you said, nobody knew...
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it's important to note that paul ryan has never been on this stage before. joe biden, given he's run for president twice, including the 2008 series, has a lot of debate experience. so it's going to be interesting, and the democrats need a little bit of a boost after what happened on wednesday. >> i hope congressman ryan comes out and says, can i call you joe? for old time's sake to start it off on a humorous note. have a great weekend. >> you, too. >> we're talking about governor romney trying to turn around a rough few weeks. he had a lot of success in the debate. president obama trying to restart after the debates perhaps capitalizing on the half-good jobs report. up next, i'll talk to the editor of politogeek.com. there's a lot going on today, and here's some things we thought you should know. a new film about the death of osama bin laden will debut on the national geographic channel. only two days before the presidential election. the movie is produced by two obama fund raisers, s.e.a.l. team 6 the raid on osama bin laden airs sunday, november 4th. darry
it's important to note that paul ryan has never been on this stage before. joe biden, given he's run for president twice, including the 2008 series, has a lot of debate experience. so it's going to be interesting, and the democrats need a little bit of a boost after what happened on wednesday. >> i hope congressman ryan comes out and says, can i call you joe? for old time's sake to start it off on a humorous note. have a great weekend. >> you, too. >> we're talking about...
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. >> the next debate is between vice president joe biden and mitt romney's running mate, paul ryan. you can catch all the action. that's next thursday right here on cnn. cnn.com. starting at 7:00 p.m. eastern. >>> not everybody does well in a town hall style debate. especially not the president's former opponent, that being john mccain. we'll talk to a presidential historian about how the format either has helped or hurt past candidates. to physics, right? so, explain this. how...
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running mate paul ryan taking a break from his own debate prep. >> last night, america got to see the man i know. a leader. >> reporter: the president, meanwhile, in the battleground leaning his way, wisconsin. speaking before a crowd of more than 30,000, his biggest crowd of the campaign yet. more energized than during the debate. >> when i got on the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. [ laughter ] but i know it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney's been running around the country for the last year promising $5 drl in tax cuts that favor the wealthy. >> reporter: many supporters asking, why wasn't the president tougher? why no mention of romney and his comments about the 47%? the people romney said he could never convince to take personal responsibility. romney offering a new explanation for those comments overnight. >> why didn't president obama bring that up? what would you have said if he did bring it up? >> clearly, in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question-and-answer sessions, now and then, y
running mate paul ryan taking a break from his own debate prep. >> last night, america got to see the man i know. a leader. >> reporter: the president, meanwhile, in the battleground leaning his way, wisconsin. speaking before a crowd of more than 30,000, his biggest crowd of the campaign yet. more energized than during the debate. >> when i got on the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. [ laughter ] but i know it couldn't have been mitt...
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paul ryan was supposed to be the guy to get people excited about mitt romney. and i do give him credit he gave a good performance. he lied through his teeth, but he won the debate in terms of performance. >> stephanie: yes, it is winning by cheating. if everything you said were true, i suppose it would be a different story. by the way what does it say about paul ryan that obama still holds a double-digit lead in wisconsin? >> it says that paul ryan is still running for his congressional seat and not giving it up. there are paul ryan for congress signs popping up all over wisconsin. >> stephanie: it seems like he thinks he may need a backup plan of some sort. >> a day job if you will. >> stephanie: jeanie in ohio. >> caller: hi guys. john good luck with your new show tonight. >> thank you very much. it will be a lot of fun. >> caller: is romney really a lunatic or what? >> yeah. >> caller: he is. every time i hear him i have to rewind to say did i just hear that? >> stephanie: right. >> caller: and i think -- i agree with that woman that called a few calls befor
paul ryan was supposed to be the guy to get people excited about mitt romney. and i do give him credit he gave a good performance. he lied through his teeth, but he won the debate in terms of performance. >> stephanie: yes, it is winning by cheating. if everything you said were true, i suppose it would be a different story. by the way what does it say about paul ryan that obama still holds a double-digit lead in wisconsin? >> it says that paul ryan is still running for his...
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happened after paul ryan's speech. if you can't call them dumb, call them a liar. turning what are basically political disagreements call them a liar. bill: after ryan's speech in tampa? >> that was the immediate response from them. basic strategy and take basic political disagreements and paint them as fabrications. bill: juan, can you defend this? >> agree with mary katherine in terms of style. president didn't look engaged at all. didn't bring the fire, didn't bring the fight. in terms of substance, mary katherine, been around, $5 trillion, says he has a big tax cut is coming. he thinks that is what is necessary to rev up economy. on stage that night, you don't understand. i'm not calling for any kind of $5 trillion tax cut. never had that in mind. he says in terms of obamacare, yes, i had a plan like that, but my plan also now will cover people with preexisting conditions because i send it back to the state. the states are not in position to cover preexisting condition. bill: on the topic of the moment you're okay calling him a liar. >> i think. bill: are you o
happened after paul ryan's speech. if you can't call them dumb, call them a liar. turning what are basically political disagreements call them a liar. bill: after ryan's speech in tampa? >> that was the immediate response from them. basic strategy and take basic political disagreements and paint them as fabrications. bill: juan, can you defend this? >> agree with mary katherine in terms of style. president didn't look engaged at all. didn't bring the fire, didn't bring the fight. in...